A long plastic funnel (1.5 - 2.0 feet) is perfect for inserting into drill holes (1/2" or larger) and dispersing the termiticide below porches, patios, garages, slab foundations, etc. What a rip-off. Get bids for both types and make the decision for yourself. Based on what Ive read from all of the conversations above, this is probably overkill. As far as do-it-yourself baits and without some basic training odds for success are truly slim at best. If a company wants to charge for a yearly inspection with no initial treatment, run away from them as fast as you can Terminix is now selling a program called T.I.P. Neither EcoLab nor Presto-X were shown as members even though you said they are solid companies. While Termidor is highly toxic, Altriset is not, making it a better alternative for those who do not want to expose themselves to the risks associated with the use of Termidor . Not a one. Last week I found termites in our basement, it seems they entered around an old stoop that now has a deck built over the top of. If you are concerned about how safe termidor is or putting chemicalsin the ground, use Altriset. All rights reserved. The installer I want to use is very highly recommeneded. Does that sound right? Cypermethrin is also a repellant, so it just depends on what they are using. You dont look like a proffesional to me. Theyll stick to foraging low down in the ground and wont come up to the area where the station is located. I live in northeast PA. Home is 10 years old and no signs of damage. Someone asked earlier how the termites would forage out to the stations from under the basement floor. What do you think? Within 90 days, all termites in or around your house will be dead. If you need a spot treatment for drywood termites and you dont want to use a traditional pesticide, then Altriset may be the perfect choice. Too many companies have bait station of all brands out there full of rotten wood and mud..And baits can be the best choice for prevention, with a company that will maintain them properly.. It just seems there is a lot of unguarded space between stationsthe stations could be bypassed. Im in Memphis and I dont seem to find anyone who provides Sentricon other than my existing pest control company. It works on termites only and does not affect humans or pets negatively. Nothing wrong with it. I want to be on the safe side and I just requested 3 free quotes: one with Orkin, they charge 1,100 and they use both baits and liquid treatment, they didnt see any active termites. Also, I promise that the product I sell is the one I use on my own home and I am telling you honestly that I havent seen a bug within 100 miles of my pristine abode in 50 years thanks to a single application of my companys awesome safe green 100% effective (not-guaranteed) product. I worked with a Termite Control Company while in High School from 1958 to 1960, and have been in the business continually since 1968 and in eastern Tenness for the past 20 plus years now. Thanks. The areas where the swarm was is in the interior wall running from front to back of house. If the stuff hangs around for 15 years, then it will eventually make its way to the surface. I have been in the pest business for over 26 years , I have used most every bait and liquid over the years . Well last month we ecountered termites in our bathrooms. They are bigger and have a unique two part feeding station. I worked for Orkin for 11.5 years, and worked at 10 different offices in WV, Va, Ky and Penn.I found them all to be crooked. If I wait until termites are found which treatment ( above) is best. Fipronyl, the active ingredient, kill s termites and also has a transfer effect that is passed from worker termites to the colony. Termites will detect the ants pheremones and NEVER enter that bait tube again. That is why the bait is put in from the beginning now and left in there to control the termites continuously. The pretreatment is Bora-Care. Didnt like the idea of gallons of the chemical in the yard with kids, dogs and cats running through it. The termites then then die due to lack of activity and inability to eat. There are several species of termites in the United States. However last night we discovered termites in our basement, mind you I had two termite complete a termite check and told no termites inside the house. Altriset is labeled only for subterranean termites. Did we go wrong with Sentricon and should have we just gone w/Termidor to start with? Just an FYI/ follow up My termite guy came by (7-26-12) to check the Sentricon traps and found activity in one of them. Is it ok that they dont offer a warranty? The world is changing. WebTermidor is an advanced undetectable liquid technology. Termite guy came and sprayed Premise behind refrigerator inside the drywall. I paid about $450 per year with a Terminix franchise on ground termite repair protection. Look for a company using Exterra Or Advance that does monthly or bi-monthly service. Premise is a cheaper alternative that does not work as well. For the Do It Yourselfer - to spot treat with termite insecticides, you don't need expensive equipment. The first unqualified treatment was done by the sellers. Your home is now being protected year round with active bait. So, if a house turns out to have a lot of termites, and that is hard to tell ahead of time, the pest company is reluctant to keep putting in additional bait, because he could lose money. or the state PMA. Then Termidor HE is perfect for this section of barrier. Thank you Jim, yes they do check the baits every 2 months. They said renewals in my area are $350. Let me clarify my statements I know that termites are attracted to wood once they find it, especially a soft wood that holds moisture. in Feb, 2013, 24 stations of sentricon always active installed. Everything I have read on here makes me lean towards Termidor. And, areas treated with this product will be protected for years because it is long-lasting. You just cut and paste information that you google to try and make Sentricon look ineffective. Termidor SC is the product which we at Termite Guys Brisbane have been using solely for the past ten years. ?If the company does not back it up call the Department of Agriculture, they can test the soil and tell what was applied ..Good luck, I had a reputable Pest control Applicator treat my home with Termidor last February 2009. However, cheaper is only a better deal if the product isnt inferior. Your well is safe. In-Stock Orders Placed By 3:00 PM CT Ship Today! I have a 8 X 10 shed in Arizona that has concrete around 2 sides. We charge around $600 $900 for most Sentricon jobs. More efficient: Reduce time and labor at least 50% on every treatment. You will find more personalized service from a locally owned and oporated company. Do I need a pre-emptive treatment or should I wait until termites are discovered? Our local company was recently taken over by Orkin (NOT happy about that) and recommends the Sentricon, at $1100 and $300/yr. Perform reference checks of other customers they have services. I hope that makes sense. Altriset is safer then the bait. They taught the sales staff how to work the obituaries, and how to drive through areas with alot of elderly and look for certain lawn ornaments (frogs & turtles) or just alot of ornaments. We will monitor these stations 2 times a year, but are only required 1 time a year. This new technology has proven to move 2.5 times further in the soil than the industry standard. There is nothing to leach. Ill tell you how. I will say this- whoever you choose, make CERTAIN they have the ability to do both methods or you will be getting a VERY biased opinion. I have an estimate for more termador or sentricon. I like the fact that the active ingredient in Sentricon is a chiton inhibitor whereas Termidor uses a nerve agent. It prevents further termite damage as well. And as far as having hundreds of gallons of pesticide dumped around your home with a liquid treatment, not true. Orkin and Terminex are only two of the members. What is the policy for Experts coming back to check the Sentricon Baits? About how much does it cost to have the various professional companies protect a home per lineal foot or per home? These are facts. Altriset contains a powerful formula that provides a fast-acting, long-lasting termite control. Responses have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by the bank advertiser. But if you want the problem solved quickly and not have to worry for 10-15 years do Termidor exterior plus treatment. Usually, in the absence of moisture, they are simply trapped inside the wall, cannot organize a new colony and eventually dehydrate (dry up) and die. 27 of 36 people found this answer helpful. The initial cost is around the same too about $1,000. Obviously termites have a unique intellect that I do not understand but others have touched on why would they make more work for themselves and build surface tunnels to the bait stations in a cold climate when they can stay deep and have a year-round food source with your house? As an experienced field technician with many years in the field Treating the Problem and Making the Customer Happy. Been using it for years. I would recommend Termidor. The use of the bait systems is like installing a fence around your property, with the fence posts and nothing in between. Termidor is a great product but requires much more TLC when applying and if you have a an ill-informed applicator you will be VERY dissatisfied. The only difference between them is the toxicity. No move-out is required for localized treatments. Scott, the climate you are in would not be the best place for baits.Baits are ok in a area that can be checked at least bi-monthly year round. Over the years this has proven to be a product to trust, so of course we were intrigued to see what Termidor HE would bring to the market. MJ, 500.00 sounds a little cheap but that greatly depends on the size of your home. You don't want to end up like your termites ! This is very seldom successful for the "blind" subterranean termite workers. $270 per year? I really dont appreciate your blanket statements about my company. I am torn because of that. Answer: Altriset Termiticide and Termidor SC are both used as an outdoor treatment for termites. BT: You have found out what MANY other people found-out; termites just wont leave perfectly good food in a home to eat bait in a tube. This product is a low-risk formula that does not impact the nearby plants and pets. We have been living in a house for 20 years that was built in 1955 on a concrete slab. For the first 2 years there was termite activity in the bait stations, but none since. Thanks, the pest control company has already come out and accessed the damage. Then, anytime within the year, we come back for free to inspect or treat. It tackles a few issues which comes with Termidor SC. Dow refuses to release their research and efficacy statistics to the public. They have phone customer service, reviews, the official Advance logos and product literature pdfs and even videos to show you how to install the products. I dont want exposure risk of perimeter Termidor. I work for at pest control company in GA where termites are very active and have seen many homes damaged by termites, powder post beetles, and fungus. Im not pro-anything. DOW sells special equipment to their termite dealers for finding the tubes and wants tracking information. Anyone have personal experience with termites in my region? Wait, maybe you ARE the perfect rep for baiting systems. People worry about the possible toxicity of Termidor to humans and pets. Jim- you are welcome to your opinion. All of them get regular updates on laws, regulations, product innovations, training and business matters. Altriset will control drywood and subterranean termite populations in three months or less when properly applied. But we are also invested in giving you the most cost effective treatment available. So now the decision is back to prevention now or wait until we find termites closer to the house. With baits if you dont renew all you have is a plastic station with two pieces of wood in it. They are not attracted to wood. Tyler, not all Orkin and Terminix techs are bad. shared with Dow via computer from the company that installed the system. Use Down or Tab key to select next menu item. Save Up to 30% on Select Lawn & Pest Control Products- Shop Now . This will be may last post. Density: approx. If you homeowners want to get rid of termites and protect your home, have a liquid termiticide applied. Bear in mind that the two products actually contain the exact same active ingredient, the major difference is how they are spread and distributed in the soil. Something is fishy about the pest guys claims. The prices quoted were $10/lin ft from one company and a total of $1920 from another. Today, all pest control companies that are doing liquid temite chemical applications use smaller gas powered or electric powered sprayers. Im buying a frame house built in 1987 in the Tampa Florida area. I have been using a Sentricon system for many years. Lawn & Garden , Pre Emergent Herbicides (Weed Preventers), Shop It is not to impressive to see a grown man acting on his emotions, so I will end this for your sake. Safe chemical, but not enough field research completed to date. You want the cheapest price. Dow also has its own quality control people (which is good),in the fine print (if its stil ther,it been a few years)you will be authorizing Dow to show up at your door usually unannounced to chech your property, and if your not there it still gets checked..One thing I have managed to do since I went into business for myself is to really tic-off my competition with honesty and a 5 year guarantee to back it up. ). Termidor is faster and more effective, plus the annual renewal will be a lot less because the treatment is (in most cases) maintanence free once it is in the ground. It also keeps working for a long time to ensure that your home stays free of any danger from termites. Nice profit margin buddy! I have also served as chairman of the wood destroying insect committee of the National Pest Management Assn. These companies that sell termite baiting stations are not honest companies at all. They work great! I live in South Dakota. Any particular questions I need to ask of either of them or can I trust that they will cover the available options thoroughly and treat me fairly in whatever treatment they recommend? It has years of data backing up its effectiveness in several University studies. Well, I can call him a nut, because I know him personally. The call backs were to treat roof areas (two story house) Its swarming season again and a few signs have been located. BASF says that the Perimeter Plus style treatment, or EPLI, is good for ten years. A guy like you who, unlike some of us, knows how to treat people could go real far. I work for Orkin, and I think very highly of the company. Both Termidor and Altriset are popular and trusted termite control treatments in the United States. Especially since you have an active infestation. Both work great initially but what makes Termidor better is it doesnt re-emulsify and Premise does . Their former president (Ward Combs) is a past president of the NPMA. Im booked out 6-8 weeks all year. Ive yet to hear anything bad about it other than the fact that holes have to be drilled. However challenging the job, Termidor HE termiticide cuts time and labor to make your work easier. Roots to Road - Shipping Stressing You Out? Even with all the precision prowess of the T Finisher, it fails to give a closer cut compared to the T Outliner. Monday - Friday It works by paralyzing the muscles of the termites. Our typical recommendation is to use Termidor HE in tiled areas and SC for the rest as a cost effective and practical alternative. House was built in 2008. That keeps the increased breeding that often happens when many termites are killed from happening. Use Enter/Space key to visit the menu item. The wood in the station rots over time with too much moisture. Id say that alone destroys what little credibility you had. Purchase Termidor online and apply it myself around and under the garage (its small, 1620). No mud tubes have ever been seen and that area in the basement is accessible and inspected during the quarterly (regular) bug treatment. Thats a savings I like, and I dont have to worry about termites finding some sticks in the ground. I will complete my research for company complaints right away. What do you get for the extra 500 bucks? Or do I have to at least spot treat that area and under the brick stoop. The termite guy thinks Sentricon always active will work. However, if I have to spend any further time moderating it, I will simply lock the comments. I am at $4-$6/LF myself, which would be $920.00 with a 5 year guarantee ..My location is near the center/east coast. Sentricon is probably the most green solution out there, but its effectiveness has also been brought into question by a number of so-called experts. Only one message said termidor does not travel and turns to a solid. Just want to make sure that I choose the right one as I dont have surplus cash to spend unwisely. Or maybe just trench along the house to do partial treatment? Wouldnt this be the same as getting rid of them, plus using the Sentricon bait as prevention? Like I said before, last year after the application..GONE!! Marquina, fact is any licensed and insured company has a repair guarantee . Read your own comments. Cest la vie. When termites eat Termidor treated This house is mostly crawl space, about 50 years old. Thats the only reason Id want to go Sentricon. Should I request a full treatment with termidor now while still keep those sentricon stations? Termidor, when applied properly, is treated at a flow rate of 4 gallons per 10 linear feet in a 6 inch deep trench. The renewal fee is a little higher for Sentricon, but there are no holes drilled through the exterior stoops, patios + no liquid pesticides applied, so it is a case by case decision based on the preferences of the individual client. Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. Now I understand the house was treated with Bora-Care for all the woods during construction. Im concerned with conflicting info about whether Transport is a nonrepellent or not the FMC website says it is but bifenthrin is described as a repellent elsewhere. If you do, something is wrong. In the battle against termite workers that never stop foraging, this is essential for success. Just dont feel like it will be as effective for us as termidor. Easy on the environment. Altriset has been thoroughly tested by the USDAForest Service and it has demonstrated excellent performance for nine consecutive years. I would say those two lead their competitors (Sentricon for bait and Termidor for liquid barriars). Effective Termidor eliminates termites several ways. WebTermidor HE High-Efficiency Termiticide However challenging the job, Termidor HE termiticide cuts time and labor to make your work easier. If I had a choice at my own home, I would go Sentricon. 1) Sentricon IS a green product. When I worked at Terminix we used Sentricon for years until Dow fired Terminix. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil as there is way too much spam to moderate things manually. No. Ron was probably never selected as a Sentricon Authorized Operator so he continually bad mouths it. Without knowing the size of your home, I could ballpark an estimated cost of around $1,000 for Termidor or $800 using the new always active Sentricon. Just know that this expert almost always recommends termidor. They could be a good company with a misinformed salesman, but that just sounds to me like he is trying to pull a fast one on you. Get green or become obsolete. Web(Termidor, Premise, Altriset) Scientific studies documenting colony elimination: 60 < 5: Eliminate the termite queen: Routinely: Occasionally: Treatment is minimally-to-non-disruptive to home, lawn and landscaping: Routinely: Occasionally: Treatment effectiveness does not degrade over time: Tangible and visible evidence of protection: This means that many people are concerned with whether or not this kind of treatment will actually get rid of their termite problems. Sorry bout the confusion.But but now that I understand you live in an area with long bad winters I would say no baits. Dish Network Technical Problems: This is Getting Ridiculous! Every independent study done will back that up.Another thing is to company you choose!! 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